ENI still have that ringing in my ears, Julia, like a constant hum after a concert.
EPISODE 70 · 11 MIN · MICS OFF
Mics Off The Date Martin Couldnt Stop Thinking About
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ENThat is just the adrenaline finally leaving your system, Martin.
ENMaybe you are right, but it has been 18 months since I sat across a table from someone new.
EN18 months since my last date.
ENI see, 18 months is a long time to keep your heart behind a glass shield.
ENIt felt like I was learning to walk again or trying to speak
ENa language I had forgotten.
ENAnd how was she?
ENThis girl from Lithuania?
ENI will tell you.
ENHer name is Elena and she is like nothing I expected.
ENTell me about the moment you saw her.
ENShe was standing by the entrance of that small jazz club, looking completely calm while I was a mess inside.
ENYou a mess?
ENThe great Martin, the guide of momentum?
ENI was overthinking everything, wondering if my shirt was too formal or if I
ENwould run out of things to say.
ENThat is the irony of your life, Martin.
ENYou coach people on action, but you were frozen.
ENExactly, I felt like a beginner again, trapped in the fear of making a mistake.
ENSo did the conversation flow or was it a struggle?
ENIt was fascinating because she has this way of looking at you, very direct, very honest.
ENThat sounds intimidating.
ENIt was, but in a way that made me want to be
ENmy best self.
ENDid you find yourself performing or were you actually there?
ENThat is the problem.
ENI don't know yet.
ENWhat do you mean?
ENI left the date feeling a mix of excitement and a strange kind of anxiety.
ENLike a cliffhanger in a movie where you don't know the ending.
ENExactly, I am interested, deeply interested, but I am also terrified of breaking my peace.
ENPeace is often just another word for being comfortably alone, Martin.
ENYou might
ENbe right, but you look like you need some peace yourself, Julia.
ENIs it that obvious?
ENYou have been rubbing your temples for the last 20 minutes.
ENMy office in the multinational is becoming a giant pressure cooker this month.
ENI thought HR was supposed to be the calm department.
ENNot when you have to manage people like Robert.
ENRobert?
ENIs he the one who always interrupts the training sessions?
ENHe is an absolute nightmare, Martin, a complete energy vampire.
ENWhat happened today?
ENI don't even want to get into the details now because it will ruin my mood.
ENThat bad?
ENI will tell you more about Robert later, but let's just say he makes me want to quit my job twice a day.
ENThe anchor is starting to feel the weight of the ship, isn't she?
ENI spent four hours today listening to middle managers complaining about burnout.
ENAnd who listens to the person listening to the burnout?
ENUsually
ENI just go to my garden and look at my plants in silence.
ENBut today the silence wasn't enough?
ENNo, because my phone keeps buzzing with emails marked as urgent.
ENThey don't understand that you are a human being, not a psychological vending machine.
ENI feel like I am performing two roles at once, and both are wearing me out.
ENYou are the one who tells me that we need to name our emotions to tame them.
ENI know, but
ENknowing the theory doesn't make the headache go away.
ENWhat is the one thing that made you feel the most stress today?
ENA meeting about productivity optimization that felt like an interrogation.
ENThose words sound like the antithesis of everything we do here.
ENIt is, Martin.
ENIt feels like a lie.
ENMaybe we need to apply some of your mindfulness tricks to your own boss.
ENMy boss is a person who thinks relaxing is a waste of billable hours.
ENHe
ENdoesn't see people.
ENHe only sees charts and efficiency ratios.
ENIt makes me feel invisible, even though my job is to make others feel seen.
ENThat is a very lonely place to be, Julia.
ENBut you are not invisible here.
ENHere, your precision and your empathy are the foundations of everything.
ENThank you, Martin.
ENI needed to hear that before we hit record.
ENBut back to your mystery woman.
ENWhat was the highlight of the night?
ENWe were talking about
ENour childhoods, and she described the Baltic Sea in winter.
ENShe used words that made me feel the cold air on my skin.
ENI realized I wasn't just listening to a story.
ENI was experiencing her world.
ENThat is the power of a real connection.
ENIt takes you out of your own head and puts you in someone else's heart.
ENShe told me something that really stuck in my mind about Lithuania.
ENWhat was it?
ENShe said that in her
ENcountry they have a saying about not counting your chickens before they hatch.
ENWe have that in English too, Martin.
ENI know, but the way she said it made me feel like I was already planning the next six months.
ENYou were projecting your future onto a person you just met.
ENI was already imagining her sitting in my living room, reading her books while I worked.
ENThat is the Martin way, always five miles ahead of the present moment.
ENIt's a habit I can't seem to break, even with people.
ENMaybe that is why you feel so much anxiety about it.
ENBecause I am not dating her.
ENI am dating a version of her I created in my head.
ENPrecisely.
ENYou are not allowing her to be a mystery.
ENShe is a mystery, though.
ENShe talks about her childhood like it was a different planet.
ENThat sounds lovely and grounded.
ENShe is very grounded, which is exactly what I
ENneed when my head is in the clouds.
ENDo you have a second date planned?
ENShe suggested going for a walk in the forest this Saturday.
ENA forest walk?
ENThat is a very Julia type of date.
ENI thought of you immediately when she said it.
ENIt will force you to be present, Martin.
ENNo jazz clubs to distract you.
ENI am worried I will find the silence between us awkward.
ENSilence is only awkward if you are trying to
ENhide something.
ENI am trying to hide my fear of being vulnerable after so long.
ENShe probably feels exactly the same way.
ENDo you think so?
ENWe are all just children in adult clothes trying to find a connection.
ENThat is a very anchor thing to say.
ENIt's the truth I see every day in HR, Martin.
ENPeople come to my office pretending to be strong, but they are just tired.
ENThey are tired of the masks and the performance.
ENDoes it make you cynical about people?
ENNo. It makes me more compassionate, but it is also very draining.
ENI spend my whole day holding space for others, but sometimes I feel like I have no space for myself.
ENWell, we should probably check our notes for the next official episode.
ENYou mean the one about AI chatbots?
ENExactly.
ENI have been doing some research on how much we can actually trust them.
ENThat is a huge topic.
ENPeople use
ENthem for everything now.
ENBut they don't always know how to frame their questions properly.
ENRight.
ENIt's all about the context you provide.
ENI want us to talk about the different profiles these bots have when they answer.
ENAnd the risks, Martin.
ENWe can't forget the risks of relying too much on them.
ENThey are powerful tools, but they can be dangerous if you don't handle them with care.
ENIt's like having a supercar, but not knowing how to drive.
ENThat is a great metaphor.
ENI'll add it to the script.
ENWhen are we releasing this one?
ENThis coming Sunday.
ENI think it's the perfect timing.
ENGood.
ENI have a lot to say about the psychological impact of talking to machines.
ENI'm looking forward to it, but now let's actually start the recording for today.
ENOkay.
ENLet me just adjust my chair.
ENAre we going to talk about the mindset shift first?
ENYes.
ENLet's stick to the plan.
ENOkay.
ENThree.
ENTwo.
ENOne.
ENBy the way, did I tell you what Robert did with the coffee machine this morning?
ENNo, but I can imagine it was something selfish.
ENIt was worse than that.
ENHe actually tried to-